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#1 Aug 31 2010 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
Was in there last night checking things out, and all their advertisements for XIV, release date, Dec. 1st (for both PC and PS3). Why is it that this store never has anything right when related to FF mmo's. I remember when CoP was going to be released, I wanted to pre-order, and the guy told me the game had been discontinued. Then ToAU, same thing, that game won't be getting made. I'm assuming it's just an error on a few flyers and adds but, it's getting kind of funny at this point.
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#2Hugznkisses, Posted: Aug 31 2010 at 9:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because Gamestop is a joke of a store. The only people who should be shopping at Gamestop are misinformed moms and grandmas with a small boy tugging on their shirt or purse, asking them to buy the latest and greatest game.
#3 Aug 31 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Because Gamestop is a joke of a store. The only people who should be shopping at Gamestop are misinformed moms and grandmas with a small boy tugging on their shirt or purse, asking them to buy the latest and greatest game.

Anyone else understands that under no circumstances should you ever step foot in that store.



I live in a small town and its all that I have. : (
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That's all we have really and I attended a nice midnight release for FFXIII - and intend to attend the one for FFXIV as well..

No problems here.
#5 Aug 31 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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The gamestops(2 of them, but mostly 1 since closer) I go to all have employes who play games themself(not just 360, but ps3 and wii too), and they are very knowledgeable on games, and upcoming onces.

Edit: i'm going to rate every1 up that likes gamestop :)


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#6 Aug 31 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I live in a small town and its all that I have. : (


You don't have a walmart or target? Both are infinitely less evil than gamestop
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My local Gamestop only had a release date for the PS3 verson..

So I walked 20 meters into HMV and bought my pre order there!
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#8 Aug 31 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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You don't have a walmart or target? Both are infinitely less evil than gamestop


Walmart? Less evil? Sorry, those two things can't be mentioned in the same sentence.
#9 Aug 31 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Malysaru wrote:
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You don't have a walmart or target? Both are infinitely less evil than gamestop


Walmart? Less evil? Sorry, those two things can't be mentioned in the same sentence.


Target's been getting a lot of bad press lately too, so neither of them are exactly squeaky.
#10 Aug 31 2010 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
Gamestop can run the gamut like any other store. The one near me is actually pretty good. The employees know what they're talking about...and the little nerd girl that works there likes to flirt with me, which would be cool but she's like half my age Smiley: oyvey
#11 Aug 31 2010 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol. I preordered my FFXIV (PC, of course) there a couple of weeks ago. After I paid in full, the employee mentioned that the release date of the game got pushed back to next Spring according to their 'system' (he didn't even bother checking). I tried to tell him that I checked for any FFXIV related updates just the day before, noting there were no delays.. but he seemed confident that he was right. Anyways, I'm assuming he was thinking about the PS3 release date. My receipt is for the PC, so no, he didn't reserve me the wrong copy.
But this guy might just be right! The delay of the open beta is just the beginning~
This might be the initial push to get the PC version closer to the PS3 release.
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#12 Aug 31 2010 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gamestops can really run the gambit, even in the same town. The one nearest us is awesome, and the guys who work there are helpful, knowledgeable, and not pushy at all. On the day that all of the Gamestop employees got their beta codes for XIV, the manager called up my hubby and offered his code to us since he wasn't going to be playing, and he knew that we were fans.

Now, the store on the other side of town... I won't set foot in there if you paid me to. It's also in our "mall", so that doesn't help either.
#13 Aug 31 2010 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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The EB Games I go to in Edmonton is pretty good. I did the midnight release for FFXIII and it went smooth. I pre-ordered FFXIV with no problems. The employees have always been friendly and helpful.
... If only they carried a FFXIV Brady Guide!!!
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For those of you saying Gamestop is all you have....

what about eBay? or amazon?

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#15 Aug 31 2010 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Hugznkisses wrote:
Because Gamestop is a joke of a store. The only people who should be shopping at Gamestop are misinformed moms and grandmas with a small boy tugging on their shirt or purse, asking them to buy the latest and greatest game.

Anyone else understands that under no circumstances should you ever step foot in that store.


Don't mean to sound rude, but this a completely ridiculous post. While gamestop might not be the BEST place to get games, it certainly should not be avoided like the plague. They often have midnight release parties, allow pre-orders of basically EVERYTHING, and with the Edge card you can find some really amazing deals on used games. Not to mention the convenience factor (as a lot of people have already stated). If you don't like it, fine. But don't try and slander a company based on your own misguided views. =/

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#16 Aug 31 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Kinda feel bad for you guys, lol there was a girl working at my local Gamestop who was just excited as I was for the CE edition release of FFXIV.

Idk, maybe at the midnight release I'll have to flirt with her more to get her characters name and server.
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#17 Aug 31 2010 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Perfect example of Gamestop negotiation:
Me: *walks into Gamestop intending to trade in a game that is currently priced in their store for $50 new & $45 used* Hey, I'd like to trade in this game for store credit.
Employee: All right! Let me bring up our trade-in value... Aha! I'll give you 3 bucks in store credit and...*fishes around in pocket* a nickel.
Me: :|
Employee: Or I could give you a dollar in cash?
Me: ...yeah, **** you.
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#18 Aug 31 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Gamestop can run the gamut like any other store. The one near me is actually pretty good. The employees know what they're talking about...and the little nerd girl that works there likes to flirt with me, which would be cool but she's like half my age Smiley: oyvey


This happens to me too except the woman I know has worked there for a looong time. I would have thought she would have owned the company by now.

Anyway, I was just by there the other day and there was absolutely nothing for FFXIV. There were some things for FFXIII, but it's probably both SE's and Gamestop's call, as to how they want to advertise.

But I do have 14 of them in a 10 mile radius near me so, I'm sure one of them has some FFXIV stuff up.
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#20 Aug 31 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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I don't really know what you're talking about. I've pre-ordered all my expansions and FFXIV at gamestop months in advance and always got them the day they were released. Maybe you just live around dumb people in general.
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#21 Aug 31 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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Buying used games from GameStop (and places like it) is bad for the industry, and that's really all there is to be said about GameStop. If you aren't habitually buying used new releases for $5 less than a new copy, there's nothing to say. If you are, you're saving a small amount of money that GameStop makes a fortune on and the creators of the game don't see a dime of it.

Doesn't really matter where you go to buy new games, though, and when buying older used games that are barely possible to find new, you do what you can.

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I'm sorry, but lol. That is maybe the worst attempt at spelling anything I have ever seen. Knowledgeable. As in able to knowledge. Effin lol.

No offense intended.

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Walmart? Less evil? Sorry, those two things can't be mentioned in the same sentence.


heh, that was kinda the joke.



I hate gamestop because of the crappy trade in policies (week old new releases for $20). I've had them sell me opened copies of games as "new". when it didn't work and I returned it, they claimed it was brand new, then gave me a lecture on something I didn't catch because I drifted off, gave me a new copy and told me to mail it in next time. That, and typically taking 10 minutes (15 if they aren't busy) to let me checkout, while trying to get me to pre-order new games I don't want. I get they are struggling as a business, but its their own fault for buying up every other failing game store thinking it wouldn't happen to them.
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my fiance and I reserved our CE FFXIV at the Gamestop close to us. There was a good trade in deal that got us each $40 off of each of our games. When we were talking to the guy we asked him several times if it was a CE release for PC; he assured us that that was the correct copy he pre-ordered for us. Over the last week we were really worried that he didnt reserve us the correct copy, so we went back to the store to check it out. There was another guy there at the time; he checked it over and found that the guy DID reserve the wrong copy (the PS3 copy). The guy transferred all our money over and put us down for the CE PC FFXIV- and then we found out that the guy who pre-ordered us the wrong copy was fired the day after we were in there. Other than that- I havnt had any problems with Gamestop/EB and they have been helpful in some situations.
#24 Aug 31 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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Kinda feel bad for you guys, lol there was a girl working at my local Gamestop who was just excited as I was for the CE edition release of FFXIV.

Idk, maybe at the midnight release I'll have to flirt with her more to get her characters name and server. phone number


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Kinda feel bad for you guys, lol there was a girl working at my local Gamestop who was just excited as I was for the CE edition release of FFXIV.

Idk, maybe at the midnight release I'll have to flirt with her more to get her characters name and server. phone number


Smiley: cool


Yeah, I thought the same thing when I read that. Phone number first my friend!
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#27 Aug 31 2010 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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Malysaru wrote:
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You don't have a walmart or target? Both are infinitely less evil than gamestop


Walmart? Less evil? Sorry, those two things can't be mentioned in the same sentence.


Target's been getting a lot of bad press lately too, so neither of them are exactly squeaky.


Eh, Target's getting flak because they supported a politican action group which donated to a politician who's not *** friendly. As some one who worked at a Target distribution center though, I can tell you they're the most openly *** friendly place I've ever seen. Full benefits for domestic partners, active support of local ***/*******/transgendered groups, etc. 75% of the women I worked with were lesbians. Half the female managers were lesbians. Not as many *** men (as far as I can tell, maybe my "gaydar" was broken), but corporate policy was 100% intolerance of discrimination. Maybe some people would like them to do more than they do, but they did more than any other company I've ever seen.

Now, as some one who got badly hurt at work and had to have several surgeries, I have nothing but terrible things to say about their corporate culture when it comes to safety and the value of their employees, but that's not why they're in the news.

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Chat her up in game so I can continue to enjoy what I'm doing and possibly enjoy doing something with her right away with some semblence of anonymity, or call her and try to think up something else to do... hmmm Smiley: grin

It would seem to me that if she enjoys the game and wanted to play that, it would be a better setting for a "first date/interview" scenario. Because even if it goes really bad, being /blacklisted just seems less intense then being blown off IRL.
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I don't understand why supporting a politician who is not ***-friendly is newsworthy at all to be honest.

Newsworthy to me is something that is entertaining that I will talk about with people, or something that affects me directly. Why would anyone care if Target supported a politician who wasn't ***-friendly? Who cares. It's so irrelevant.
Even if I worked at Target I wouldn't care. People are going to have their own opinion and views obviously, so reporting that someone has an opinion on gays is pointless.

If my mayor was anti-***, my prime minister was anti-***, as long as they do a good job running the city/country... what does it matter what their personal views are. Being ***-friendly doesn't lead to lower taxes and better health reform.

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Doesn't matter what somebody's personal views are if they do their job well.

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If my mayor was anti-***, my prime minister was anti-***, as long as they do a good job running the city/country... what does it matter what their personal views are. Being ***-friendly doesn't lead to lower taxes and better health reform.


I really don't want to derail this thread, but being not ***-friendly and being outright anti-*** would make a world of difference to a *** person I reckon.

But yeah, that's hardly newsworthy anyway. Of course, not much that gets passed off as "newsworthy" these days is actually newsworthy anyway.
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Or at least it seems that way, so any news about a politicians personal business that damages his reputation certainly is a big deal to a majority of voters, regardless if it affects his policies one way or the other.
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I really don't want to derail this thread, but being not ***-friendly and being outright anti-*** would make a world of difference to a *** person I reckon.

But yeah, that's hardly newsworthy anyway. Of course, not much that gets passed off as "newsworthy" these days is actually newsworthy anyway.


We live in a world where people judge others. Heck, people are judging me with the red and green arrow on this forum.
We're going to judge others ingame based on how they play.

Surely people are going to judge others with how they live in real-life. Some people accept a *** lifestyle, others don't.
Being 'anti-***' doesn't make someone wrong, and being 'pro-***' doesn't make someone right.
It's a personal view and belief. Many, many people are brought up with different beliefs in different religious circles.
I say, just let everyone have their own opinions, and stop trying to mold them into something that is media-friendly.
#33 Aug 31 2010 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Chat her up in game so I can continue to enjoy what I'm doing and possibly enjoy doing something with her right away with some semblence of anonymity, or call her and try to think up something else to do... hmmm Smiley: grin

It would seem to me that if she enjoys the game and wanted to play that, it would be a better setting for a "first date/interview" scenario. Because even if it goes really bad, being /blacklisted just seems less intense then being blown off IRL.


Dude...no guts no glory. And if things work out you won't be starting one of these "My GF doesn't like me playing an MMO" threads that seem so popular today. DO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...

Edit: Seriously, an (I'm asuming) attractive woman that is excited...EXCITED...about FFXIV. What is there to think about? That's like walking down the street and getting knocked out by a flying bag of free money.

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Being 'anti-***' doesn't make someone wrong, and being 'pro-***' doesn't make someone right.


Only in the most morally relativistic way. Would you make the same statement about racism or sexism?

Denigrating a business because of their ethical practices is not only fair game, but socially responsible.
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#35 Aug 31 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I really don't want to derail this thread, but being not ***-friendly and being outright anti-*** would make a world of difference to a *** person I reckon.

But yeah, that's hardly newsworthy anyway. Of course, not much that gets passed off as "newsworthy" these days is actually newsworthy anyway.


We live in a world where people judge others. Heck, people are judging me with the red and green arrow on this forum.
We're going to judge others ingame based on how they play.

Surely people are going to judge others with how they live in real-life. Some people accept a *** lifestyle, others don't.
Being 'anti-***' doesn't make someone wrong, and being 'pro-***' doesn't make someone right.
It's a personal view and belief. Many, many people are brought up with different beliefs in different religious circles.
I say, just let everyone have their own opinions, and stop trying to mold them into something that is media-friendly.


If you were ***, you might see it differently. I mean, if a politician came out and said "I hate gamers, gamers should not have the same rights as non gamers" you'd probably question whether that was the best person to have in office, wouldn't you? I know I would. I certainly don't want some one to represent me who clearly doesn't respect or like who I am. If a politician came out and said "I don't like blacks, they shouldn't have the same rights as whites" or "I don't like women, they shouldn't have the same rights as men" they'd get a ton of backlash. It's just more socially accepted to look down on gays and/or they just don't represent as large a portion of the population, so they get marginalized much more easily.

To be quite honest I rarely vote for politicians based on a perception of competence, because a politician who's competent at enacting policies that I don't like isn't really much an asset to me as a tax payer or voter. *** rights are not a huge issue to me personally, because I'm not *** and don't have any close friends who are *** (at least, if they are, they're not sharing that fact with me). At the same time I can understand why it's a big deal to some one whose life is actually influenced by these attitudes.


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Chat her up in game so I can continue to enjoy what I'm doing and possibly enjoy doing something with her right away with some semblence of anonymity, or call her and try to think up something else to do... hmmm Smiley: grin

It would seem to me that if she enjoys the game and wanted to play that, it would be a better setting for a "first date/interview" scenario. Because even if it goes really bad, being /blacklisted just seems less intense then being blown off IRL.


... and that's why you'll never get past being friends. Look at it this way: she already likes playing MMOs, so she doesn't really need you around to do that. Help her discover some thing she likes that has to do with you. Take her to a concert, or a movie, or just grab a coffee and then head back to your place to listen to some music you like (or music she likes!). Of course you're going to have fun chillin' in FFXIV as well, but that's not a basis for a relationship, it's merely a way to break the ice. Talking to her in person is also a good way to do that.

You can't have a fear of rejection. It's like having a fear of a fast food joint messing up your order at the drive through. It's going to happen so much in life that you might as well just get used to it and laugh about it. Either that or suffer through a life that doesn't include Jack in the Box, or ***.


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While I understand your point, there are many times where I am not willing to dish out the full price for a game I might not like. In these cases, I will gladly pay $5-10 less (not to mention the extra buck I'll save w/ Edge card) and not think twice about it. I'm on a budget and video game spending is definitely not priority 1, so I will save money any way I can. If you want to buy only new copies of the game more power to ya. If there's a game I KNOW I want, I buy it new also.
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You don't have a walmart or target? Both are infinitely less evil than gamestop


Walmart? Less evil? Sorry, those two things can't be mentioned in the same sentence.


Target's been getting a lot of bad press lately too, so neither of them are exactly squeaky.


Eh, Target's getting flak because they supported a politican action group which donated to a politician who's not *** friendly. As some one who worked at a Target distribution center though, I can tell you they're the most openly *** friendly place I've ever seen. Full benefits for domestic partners, active support of local ***/*******/transgendered groups, etc. 75% of the women I worked with were lesbians. Half the female managers were lesbians. Not as many *** men (as far as I can tell, maybe my "gaydar" was broken), but corporate policy was 100% intolerance of discrimination. Maybe some people would like them to do more than they do, but they did more than any other company I've ever seen.

Now, as some one who got badly hurt at work and had to have several surgeries, I have nothing but terrible things to say about their corporate culture when it comes to safety and the value of their employees, but that's not why they're in the news.

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This is pretty much exactly why they're mad about it. Companies that claim to be super *** friendly (I work for one of the top 5 *** friendly companies in the world) and then support non-*** friendly politicians results in an (imo) understandable backlash.

If this were a less publically "*** friendly" company, I'm sure it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal.

I apologize for derailing the topic into a bit of totally unrelated drama - although I have to say I'm extremely impressed with the level of maturity the people involved in the thread have shown. Not many communities could see this kind of discussion and not dissolve into blathering namecalling and bigotry.

Bravo ZAM'ers!
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I only use stores like Gamestop for used crap games (or UMD movies) or if I see something that has been out and I want NOW.

Otherwise it's Amazon pre-order. Though for a while I had to rely on Gamestop because Amazon didn't use to ship to Military overseas. They've mostly fixed that now though, so most of my purchases are Amazon based. I'm not paying British taxes! (That and they pay what we pay, but in pounds. So alot of times a $59.99 game is 59.99 GBP which is around 80-100 bucks!)
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... and that's why you'll never get past being friends. Look at it this way: she already likes playing MMOs, so she doesn't really need you around to do that. Help her discover some thing she likes that has to do with you. Take her to a concert, or a movie, or just grab a coffee and then head back to your place to listen to some music you like (or music she likes!). Of course you're going to have fun chillin' in FFXIV as well, but that's not a basis for a relationship, it's merely a way to break the ice. Talking to her in person is also a good way to do that.

You can't have a fear of rejection. It's like having a fear of a fast food joint messing up your order at the drive through. It's going to happen so much in life that you might as well just get used to it and laugh about it. Either that or suffer through a life that doesn't include Jack in the Box, or ***.


I don't have a fear of rejection Smiley: lol I live in Utah, surrounded by mormons, who drinks, occasionally smokes, parties, doesn't go to church and enjoys my life without constantly being around other people. I don't exactly meet the archetype here.

I'm just at the point in my life where a casual encounter isn't what I want, and any relationship I start that isn't a 'friends first' situation never lasts. Besides, we both know that while you're playing an MMO you almost never actually talk about the MMO it's always something else, then when you're not playing the MMO that's pretty much all you talk about. For me and my group of friends anyway.
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While I understand your point, there are many times where I am not willing to dish out the full price for a game I might not like. In these cases, I will gladly pay $5-10 less (not to mention the extra buck I'll save w/ Edge card) and not think twice about it. I'm on a budget and video game spending is definitely not priority 1, so I will save money any way I can. If you want to buy only new copies of the game more power to ya. If there's a game I KNOW I want, I buy it new also.


In that case, I suggest you rent or buy online.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not about to crucify you over your consumer practices, but if you're so short on cash that you can justify playing into GameStop's industry-killing business model, there are MORE affordable ways to play games that are less damaging to the industry.
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Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#42 Aug 31 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Gamestop is doing far more damage to the the industry than pirates are.

Pirates wouldn't have bought the game at all. But people who buy a used copy of a game for $5 less probably would have bought a new copy.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:58pm by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#43 Aug 31 2010 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good
Lobivopis wrote:
Gamestop is doing far more damage to the the industry than pirates are.

Pirates wouldn't have bought the game at all. But people who buy a used copy of a game for $5 less probably would have bought a new copy.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:58pm by Lobivopis


Actually I've probably purchased quite a few (new) games that I wouldn't have, if not for game stop. You see, by trading in old games that I had no use for, I got credit towards new games that I wanted, which made the decision to purchase them easier and more affordable. It's true that game stop turned around and turned my 10 dollar trade in into a 20, 30, or 40 dollar sale, but what concern is to me? What concern is it to the publisher who in many cases was no longer even making the game? Like it or not, a lot of games suck, and this makes people reluctant to risk their 60 dollars on an unknown quantity. The same person might be happy to risk 40 or 50 dollars instead, but when publishers and retailers decide "60 dollars or nothing!" they've already made a decision to forfeit that sale. Why shouldn't game stop and the consumer both profit from their willingness to set a price which is more equitable and realistic than what the publisher desires?

Sure, publishers are probably losing SOME money because of game stop, but they also profit quite a bit by having these boutiques in every town and hamlet across the country. They're getting access to customers they wouldn't have had otherwise and selling games they couldn't have sold on their own. With the advent of services like Steam, and the proliferation of Downloadable "upsell" content for virtually every A list title on the market, publishers are less reliant on outlets like gamestop than they used to be, but that also means that they're much less at the mercy of such used game resellers, and in some ways they might even profit from the practice (if you can sell the same DLC 2-3 times for each physical copy, and you're only making a profit on DLC in the first place, what's the down side?).

I think that if you're some one who likes to buy physical copies of your games, you should be a lot more concerned about the ability of the industry to put game stop out of business than the ability of game stop to hurt developers.
#44 Aug 31 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, the assistant manager that pre-ordered my XIV CE was very well informed. He knew all the perks that came with the CE, and even made sure I was aware of the heavy sytsem reqirements before he sold it to me. I had no issues, and he even volunteered info on how I could pick it up as early as possible after they arrived.

I think the OP just has a "bad" store. Most if not all of the Gamestops in my area are pretty good.
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You know, you could have probably put those games on craigslist or ebay and got a lot more from them, and then bought the games much cheaper on top of that. Instead of paying 40 dollars for a game you'll sell back for 5, you could have paid 20 dollars for a game you'd sell back for... 20.
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Hyrist wrote:
Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#46 Aug 31 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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You know, you could have probably put those games on craigslist or ebay and got a lot more from them, and then bought the games much cheaper on top of that. Instead of paying 40 dollars for a game you'll sell back for 5, you could have paid 20 dollars for a game you'd sell back for... 20.


I've made a few mistakes like that, but often I try to look at what I'm selling/trading in. Other than the really popular stuff, putting games/systems on craigslist can be hit or miss if your collection consists of mainly one genre. Do I want to wait for the right person looking for this system and my particular taste in games to stumble upon my craigslist post or just go ahead & get it over with?

When I put my GBA & FF Collection on craigslist, I was afraid everyone would be thinking "How can he ask so much for a friggin' gameboy??"(this was a few months ago), but luckily a FF fan jumped on it immediately...worked out well that time.



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#47 Aug 31 2010 at 9:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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From a gamestop employee "nerd chick:" (Massachusetts)

They aren't very nice to their employees and corporate only cares about your money.

But if you have a good store nearby where the staff are really gamers and are nice people it's still the best place to go.

I won't sell you a disk scratch protection plan on a PS3 game or our extra (non-extended) warranty on a new system. I will tell you when a game sucks (I stopped many moms from buying tony Hawk ride last Christmas) and I will actually order stuff in for you from other stores. I will chat all day about good stuff coming out, show you trailers I bring in from home on my PSP and tell you which CE's I think are worth the $$...

Games-stops vary HUGELY from store to store, A real lazy manager might not update his marketing kit and thus not have the new FFXIV display boxes out, and a lazy Sony rep might not have updated their PS3 show unit with the new FFXIV trailer like ours is... I do wish we had big window posters or something (praying for a standee,) but this is more than we normally get for MMOs so I'll take it. lazy employees won't lift a finger for you and will just robot-pressure you to reserve stuff to avoid being fired...

The reserve thing is frustrating because they write us up and fire us if we don't make quota, But also because if you DO want to buy new then you SHOULD reserve anyway. Yes, we get interest off your dollar until the game comes out, but it makes the company ship us more copies, more guides, and more freebies. I mean the reservation bonus for most games are pretty ok, And I hate not getting shipped enough games because corporate is cheap, so it's a win-win! I keep my job, we don't run out, you get something free, and corporate grubs their money.

now: Why do we pay so little for trades?

short answer: most games that are traded in are not wanted. (duh) but most are Not wanted period. not by their owners, and not by anyone else. All the wii shovel-ware, and 3 year old sports games come CONSTANTLY. Who is buy this crap?!

Yes, we normally pay diddly for games, the employees know it, we don't trade our stuff in most of the time either. You just have to wait for one of those big trade in deals; right now you get an extra 30% for any stack of games with more than 5 pieces. Even scabby scratched ones, even GBA and PS2. Otherwise either wait, or cut out the middle man and sell them yourself. New games have a margin of 11.7% (we make $7 on a new game) There is 0% margin on new systems, and the margin we make by marking up the used ones 65% (yeah, we pay $10 for a game we sell for $30) mostly gets wasted away because of all the crap games we have to buy.

You can tell how a "good" (popular) a game is by how fast it's trade in value drops. A very popular game trades in for 40% of what we resell it for, a normal game about 30%, a crap wii shovel-ware game that we will NEVER resell, 15-20% of what we'll TRY to resell it for. If we didn't have to spend so much money buying people's CRAP we wouldn't have to try and make it up on the good games.

That said I don't particularly like the company since they didn't pay time and a half for workers on the 4th of July and said the reason payroll hours were cut was because turn over has gone down causing employees to earn more benefits and have higher hourly wages. SERIOUSLY. (This information was in a public address to employees from corporate played in the morning on our Gamestop TV before we opened.)

"well Joe, I see you make $9 an hour and work 20 hours a week. would you like a raise?"
"oh golly yes!"
"ok, I'll now pay you $10 an hour, but I'm only putting you on the schedule for 15 hours a week..."

#48 Aug 31 2010 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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To think that I actually wanted to work for Gamestop.... Tried for years and could never get in. Gamestop nerd chick, you wouldn't happen to be the store manager for the Gamestop in Leominster, would you? Haha, that would be quite the coincidence.

As for Gamestop itself...I already had a big discussion on this at the PA forums the other day, but...I mean the store may have horrible practices, but as the consumer it's my decision to buy stuff where it's cheap, quick, available, and convenient. Shopping online can be cheap, available, and convenient, but it's hardly quick....and most retail places besides Gamestop don't carry around used games so if I'm looking for an older game that pretty much forces me to buy at Gamestop. Shoot, even with new games the Gamestop pre-order bonuses can even sway my decision, haha.

Instead of demonizing used game buyers like the publishers have been trying to do lately, perhaps they could make Gamestop a deal on getting cuts of the profits....or you know, stop giving the store extra business by giving the (usually) best preorder incentives to them....
#49 Aug 31 2010 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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If you're looking for an older game, ebay is your best friend.
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Hyrist wrote:
Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
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I'm sorry, but lol. That is maybe the worst attempt at spelling anything I have ever seen. Knowledgeable. As in able to knowledge. Effin lol.

No offense intended.



Lol no worries. I didn't even notice that. I was like half asleep when I posted. Sleep + spelling = me fail
#51 Aug 31 2010 at 11:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gamestop can run the gamut like any other store. The one near me is actually pretty good. The employees know what they're talking about...and the little nerd girl that works there likes to flirt with me, which would be cool but she's like half my age Smiley: oyvey


LMAO! You reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_VaDyN-5Ko
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